We're Only in It for the Money

We're Only in It for the Money

Track Listings

1. Are You Hung Up?
2. Who Needs the Peace Corps?
3. Concentration Moon
4. Mom & Dad - Mothers of Invention
5. Telephone Conversation - Mothers of Invention, Mothers of Invention
6. Bow Tie Daddy - Mothers of Invention, Mothers of Invention
7. Harry, You're a Beast
8. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?
9. Absolutely Free
10. Flower Punk
11. Hot Poop
12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
13. Let's Make the Water Turn Black
14. Idiot Bastard Son
15. Lonely Little Girl
16. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
17. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? (Reprise) - Mothers of Invention, Mothers of Invention
18. Mother People
19. Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny

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We're Only in It for the Money

We're Only in It for the Money
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • Did Anyone Else Notice This?
  • For the money...
  • Zappa at his best, if you don't mind the baggage
  • Zappa's Finest Hour
  • Some of the best music ever created
We're Only in It for the Money
The Mothers of Invention
Manufacturer: Zappa Records
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B0000009RX
Release Date: 1995-04-18

Tracks:

  1. Are You Hung Up?
  2. Who Needs The Peace Corps?
  3. Concentration Moon
  4. Mom & Dad
  5. Telephone Conversation
  6. Bow Tie Daddy
  7. Harry, You Are A Beast
  8. What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body?
  9. Absolutely Free
  10. Flower Punk
  11. Hot Poop
  12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
  13. Let's Make The Water Turn Black
  14. The Idiot Bastard Son
  15. Lonely Little Girl
  16. Take Your Clothes Off When you Dance
  17. What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? (Reprise)
  18. Mother People
  19. The Chrome Plated Megaphone Of Destiny

Amazon.com essential recording

The Mothers of Invention answer the sentiments of the suits, the suburb dwellers, and flower children of the 60's with a big fat raspberry. Considered by many to be the Mothers' (and some would say Zappa's) best album, We're Only in it for the Money deals with harsh subject matter in a seemingly glib and light-hearted fashion (eventually a Zappa trademark), sparing no targets with catchy melodies and high-pitched vocals. Zappa applies the same aggressive studio techniques he did on Lumpy Gravy, creating a jarring collage of sound that still sounds avant-garde today. Highlights from this flawless album are numerous and include the hippie bashing "Who Needs thePeace Corps," the bedroom science of "Let's Make the Water Turn Black," the anthematic "Mother People," and the perfect payoff of "What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?" Quite simply one of the best rock albums of all time. --Andrew Boscardin

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars Did Anyone Else Notice This?.......2007-07-03

I was listening to We're Only In It For The Money in my basement and I realized:
Phase 1: We're Only In It For The Money
Phase 2: Lumpy Gravy
Phase 3: Civilization (Phase III)
Frank even put it on the album in a speech bubble "Is this Phase 1 of Lumpy Gravy?" and on Lumpy Gravy "Is this Phase 2 of We're Only In It For The Money?" We're Only In It For The Money and Lumpy Gravy Have a song in common, "Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance" (Just "Take Your Clothes Off" on Lumpy Gravy)

If you are a Zappa fan and you don't have any of these albums BUY THEM NOW! and listen to them, back to back to back.

5 out of 5 stars For the money..........2007-04-09

In college, our "hippie" friend Lowell W... introduced our group to Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. Soon, I was adding Mothers LPs (They came on vinyl, you know) to my ecclectic record collection. So, what was this stuff anyhow? Political comment? Rock N Roll? It certainly was not Country & Western! What a puzzle! (However, it might have been poltical satire because Zappa seems to have written a song about my family friendly congressman before he was even elected. "Just have your fun, you old son of a gun, and drive off in your Lincoln..." So, Lowell up and writes Frank about what's it really mean anyhow and signs it Lo W... Now, Zappa was not one to waste a stamp on a fan. But, a few months later a full page ad appeared for the newest Mother's album in "The Rolling Stone." The headline read: "Dear Lo: We're only in it for the money!" and there was a large photo of the album cover and some other stuff. Well, we still did not know what it was all about, but I enjoyed the album. I cannot speak for the entire listings of the Mothers on Amazon, but "We're only in it for the money" is my favorite Zappa CD. I still do not know what the goofy thing is all about, but I think the title is telling the truth.

4 out of 5 stars Zappa at his best, if you don't mind the baggage.......2007-01-12

Frank Zappa's best work is often weighed down with his insistent brand of humor, and this album, perhaps the best of his early period, is no exception. Some of his studio mastery is already at work with the story of an intruder in the studio somehow messing with the tapes weaving through the songs. And the acerbic look at the hippie scene is devastating. Anybody who ever thought about going to San Francisco with flowers in their hair should have been forced to listen first. And doesn't that sound dated; there's the rub - stuff like that drags down the timeless quality of this music. It becomes a "period document" instead of just a great musical listen.
But don't let that stop you - this is a textbook example of how rock music was already becoming a melting pot for every genre imaginable. And in this album, it's in the hands of a master. In multiple styles, brilliantly executed, the Mothers create a rich sonic landscape of memorable melodies, creative instrumentation, daring rhythmns, and superb playing. Don't miss this one.

5 out of 5 stars Zappa's Finest Hour.......2006-12-20

Some of this album is snarky, hilarious satire (Who Needs the Peace Corps?; Flower Punk; Absolutely Free; the Idiot Bastard Son), some of it's unabashed, unironic protest singing (Mother People; Concentration Moon; Mom and Dad; What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?; Take off Your Clothes When You Dance), some of it's comic relief (Harry, You're a Beast; Let's Make the Water Turn Black), and some of it's more avant-garde (Are You Hung Up?; Hot Poop; Nasal Rentetive Callipoe Music; The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny), but every part of this forty minute suite (pretty much what it is) is unadultred brilliance that'll make your head spin. The best Zappa album out there, at least out of what I've heard.

5 out of 5 stars Some of the best music ever created.......2006-09-03

We know he was a genius. Beneath all the arrogance and cynicisim. Past all the 6th grade bathroom humor. Beyond the anger - there was in Frank Zappa a heart which cared for his fellow man, and the soul of a musician.

I didn't know what to make of this album when I began listening to it in 1968, till I heard The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny at the end. To my mind, this is a musical masterpiece equal to the works of any great composer.

Zappa was complex and didn't make it easy to see the beauty in his work. Don't take the bait - keep a very open mind, listen with your heart, and this album will reward you time and time again.
We're Only in It for the Money
Average customer rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars
  • Alex Zappa Fan
  • Censored? Not really.
  • WARNING/GUARANTEE:
We're Only in It for the Money
The Mothers of Invention
Manufacturer: Mobile Fidelity Koch
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B0009YNRZM
Release Date: 2005-08-09

Tracks:

  1. Are You Hung Up?
  2. Who Needs the Peace Corps?
  3. Concentration Moon
  4. Mom & Dad - Mothers of Invention
  5. Telephone Conversation - Mothers of Invention, Mothers of Invention
  6. Bow Tie Daddy - Mothers of Invention, Mothers of Invention
  7. Harry, You're a Beast
  8. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?
  9. Absolutely Free
  10. Flower Punk
  11. Hot Poop
  12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
  13. Let's Make the Water Turn Black
  14. Idiot Bastard Son
  15. Lonely Little Girl
  16. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
  17. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? (Reprise) - Mothers of Invention, Mothers of Invention
  18. Mother People
  19. Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Alex Zappa Fan.......2005-12-12

This remaster is simply great. Sound quality is all why you are paying twice the price for this cd, buy if you are Zappa fan, this should not matter. This is the milestone for MOFI to release gold Zappa remaster.
Needless to say that several noises missed from 90's remaster will not substitute for overall picture of superior hi-fi sound.

5 out of 5 stars Censored? Not really........2005-08-20

This isn't really a review so much as a response to Zappafreak's claim that this CD is censored. Having just listened to it, I can assure readers that this disc is identical to the original 1968 LP. I'm guessing that Zappafreak is referring to the omission of a few bits that were restored on the heavily remixed and overdubbed version of We're Only In It For The Money that was released in the '80s on a disc paired with Lumpy Gravy. While I agree that it would have been nice to hear these censored portions included (particularly in the album's original mix), I believe that MFSL's primary goal is to restore--to the best of their ability--the *original* album. Therefore, I think it's pretty unfair to accuse these guys of bastardizing Frank's work. In fact, this CD has the same content as the "FZ approved" edition that Ryko released in 1995. And say, I just noticed that the front cover of this version actually has all the black bars removed from the people's faces. How 'bout that?

As for the sound quality, MFSL did pretty good job given the source material. While there is still some noticeable distortion and fuzz here and there, the album certainly sounds crisper and cleaner than the current Ryko version. Whether or not it's worth the upgrade mainly depends on how much of an audiophile you are. The sound quality most likely won't blow you away, but I can't imagine this album sounding any better. I definitely won't be needing my old CD anymore.

1 out of 5 stars WARNING/GUARANTEE:.......2005-08-12

"This album contains material which a truly free society would neither fear nor suppress.

In some socially retarded areas, religious fanatics and ultra-conservative political organizations violate you First Amendment Rights by attempting to censor rock & roll albums. We feel that this is un-Constitional and un-American.

As an alternative to these government-supported programs (designed to keep you docile and ignorant). Barking Pumpkin is pleased to provide stimulating digital audio entertainment for those of you who have outgrown the ordinary.

The language and concepts contained herein are GUARANTEED NOT TO CAUSE ETERNAL TORMENT IN THE PLACE WHERE THE GUY WITH THE HORNS AND POINTED STICK CONDUCTS HIS BUSINESS.

This guarantee is as real as the threats of the video fundamentalists who use attacks on rock music in their attempt to transform America into a nation of check mailing nincompoops (in the name of Jesus Christ). If there is a hell, it's fires wait for them, not us."

-FZ

BEWARE!!! This recording has been CENSORED!!! I am STUNNED BEYOND BELIEF!!! How could this have been allowed?!! Too bad Frank isn't still around to make sure EVERYTHING is done CORRECTLY!!! Who are the "nincompoops" responsible for THIS blasphemy?!! I still can't believe I'm sitting here listening to a CENSORED Frank Zappa cd, UNBELIEVABLE!!!
We're Only in It for the Money (Limited Edition Japanese Mini LP Sleeve CD)
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    We're Only in It for the Money (Limited Edition Japanese Mini LP Sleeve CD)
    The Mothers of Invention
    Manufacturer: Rykodisc
    ProductGroup: Music
    Binding: Audio CD

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    ASIN: B000A2H5BK
    Release Date: 2005-07-19

    Tracks:

    1. Are You Hung Up?
    2. Who Needs The Peace Corps?
    3. Concentration Moon
    4. Mom & Dad
    5. Telephone Conversation
    6. Bow Tie Daddy
    7. Harry, You're A Beast
    8. What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body?
    9. Absolutely Free
    10. Flower Punk
    11. Hot Poop
    12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
    13. Let's Make The Water Turn Black
    14. The Idiot Bastard Son
    15. Lonely Little Girl
    16. Take Off Your Clothes When You Dance
    17. What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? (Reprise)
    18. Mother People
    19. The Chrome Plated Megaphone Of Destiny

    Album Description

    Imported from Japan by Rykodisc.

    Packaged in deluxe mini-album jacket sleeves, these 10 classic albums by rock legend FRANK ZAPPA are now available as limited edition Japanese Imports! These packages re-create the original vinyl packaging in miniaturized form!
    Samuel Ramey: Ev'ry Time We Say Goodbye: Songs of Barber,
    Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
    • a voice teacher and early music fan
    • The greatest American bass
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    Samuel Ramey: Ev'ry Time We Say Goodbye: Songs of Barber,
    Samuel Barber , Stephen Foster , Charles T. Griffes , George Gershwin , Edwin Gerschefski , Paul Bowles , Cole Porter , Samuel Ramey , and Warren Jones
    Manufacturer: Sony
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    23. Seven Lively Arts: Ev'ry Time We Say Goodbye
    24. FIFTY MILLION FRENCHMEN: The Tale Of The Oyster

    Customer Reviews:

    5 out of 5 stars a voice teacher and early music fan.......2007-02-26

    This is such a great collection of 20th century songs, that it behooves me to say something brief about each composer on this disc. I think that by doing so the listener gains more insight and thus more appreciation of all aspects of the song material.

    The music of Samuel Barber (1910-1981), whether his symphonies, concertos,operas, chamber music or songs, is notable above all for a pronounced and refined lyricism. Barbr wrote songs thruout his career, and his published vocal output, though relatively small, is perhaps the most distinguished of an American composer. He preferred lyrical , romantic poetry, and his word-setting was perfect.
    Stephen Foster (1826-1864) published his first song when he was 18 and by dint of hundreds more became, in the words of Aaron Copland,"our own national hero (who) had a naturalness and sweetness of sentiment that transformed his melodies into the equivalent of folk song." He was truly a songwriter rather than a composer, for he wrote no concert works or operas.
    Charles Tomlinson Griffes (1884-1920) assimilated Debussian impressionism and,somewhat later, Oriental exoticism. During his brief career, he composed 64 songs, including four song-cycles.
    George Gershwim(1898-1937) began his career in Tin Pan Alley and eventually, with works such as 'Rhapsody in blue' for piano and orchestra and some other works, brought Jazz into the concert hall.
    Paul Bowles (1910- ) has long enjoyed celebrity status as an author,a writer of novels, short stories and essays. After a brief study with Aaron Copland, he made a considerable reputation as a composer of incidenal music. Virgil Thompson once described Bowles's songs as "enchanting for their sweetness of mood, their lightness of texture, for in general their way of being wholly alive and right".
    Cole Porter (1891-1964) had the rare ability to invent superior catchpenny tunes; deceptively simple, often elegant melodies that stay in the ear. Consequently,he became one of the most successful American songwriter of his era.

    As to Samuel Ramey's performance of these songs, one can only say 'business as usual', and that means great sound, great diction, great interpretation and always with that extra something that only a few bassos have!!!!The variety of works is varied and interesting and, if you please, is NOT a cross-over album. There are too many songs that denote the classical element. He was wise enough to vary his selection to avoid that particular situation. I really like this disc!!!!!

    5 out of 5 stars The greatest American bass.......2007-01-10

    Ramey fans will not be disappointed by this charming collection of vocal gems.

    3 out of 5 stars Good, but one dimensional.......2000-04-26

    Samuel Ramey is undoubtedly one of the finest and most versatile opera singers of his generation. However, these songs do not show his voice off at his best. One of Ramey's main faults is a lack of variety and vocal colour which is ABSOLUTELY needed in a song recital. This lack of colouring means that most of the songs come out sounding the same. The other major concern is that Mr Ramey's vibrato is quite pronounced. Most opera singers can get away with this when singing with an orchestra, but when he just has piano accompaniment it is much more noticeable. Still, it is good to have a recording of some of these lesser known songs and it is still an enjoyable cd.

    5 out of 5 stars Primo basso assolutto!!.......1998-11-17

    Having attended Mr. Ramey's recent recital in Chicago where he sang a number of the songs on this recording, I can say that there is simply no bass today to rival him for sheer vocal glory. Whether it is the bel canto repetoire, baroque decorations, or as here, the American literature, Ramey is THE bass of the day. Unlike the former days when bassos were relagated to either buffoon, rich uncle, or some other supporting role, Ramey has almost single-handedly elevated the basso to star status. Roles that languished for years because there was no one up to their demands are now staples of Ramey's catalogue. Warren Jones is a sensetive and intelligent accompanist. In fact he played the entire recital from memory.
    We're Only in It for the Money/Lumpy Gravy
    Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    • closest thing to Zappa's vision
    • Frank's worst blunder: poorly re-recorded masterpiece
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    We're Only in It for the Money/Lumpy Gravy
    Frank Zappa
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    ASIN: B000008MLU
    Release Date: 1990-10-25

    Tracks:

    1. Are You Hung Up?
    2. Who Needs the Peace Corps?
    3. Concentration Moon
    4. Mom and Dad
    5. Telephone Conversation
    6. Bow Tie Daddy
    7. Harry, You're a Beast
    8. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?
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    11. Hot Poop
    12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
    13. Let's Make the Water Turn Black
    14. Idiot Bastard Son
    15. Lonely Little Girl
    16. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
    17. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body (Reprise)
    18. Mother People
    19. Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny
    20. Lumpy Gravy I
    21. Lumpy Gravy II

    Customer Reviews:

    4 out of 5 stars closest thing to Zappa's vision.......2006-04-07

    Yes, Zappa rerecorded the bass and drum tracks because he was not happy with the original perfomances. BUT- and this is a big but- it's uncensored. It's the only version I'm aware of that does not censor this album in some way. Verve conservatively returned to the censored, original released version of the album for the more recent reissue.

    I would like to quote the following from [...] I hope the authors don't mind.

    "The old CD, which was coupled with Lumpy Gravy, was a complete remix with major 1980s overdubs, but the 1995 CD is like the original, US vinyl. There were several original vinyl versions, with different amounts of censorship - "offensive" bits were cut out from them. The old, remixed CD was not censored, but the 1995 CD has all of the "original" censorship inherent in the US vinyl release. There is no such thing as a version of the original mix with intact "Mother People" and "Harry, You're a Beast" verses, although there is a Canadian pressing with the "Velvet Underground" line in place."

    So what do you want, original bass and drums with censored lyrics, or Zappa's own attempt to salvage the album with lyrics intact? It's his music, I trust his judgment. And I don't approve of any form of censorship. So I prefer this version, and the so-called "purists" who would rather listen to a gutless corporate cowpie- enjoy.

    2 out of 5 stars Frank's worst blunder: poorly re-recorded masterpiece.......2005-07-14

    Frank Zappa isn't exactly known for treating his back catalogue very well, with remixes, poor remasterings, and other "tamperment" dotting his reissue programme. The infamous 1984 remix of We're Only In It For the Money--originally released as part of the "Old Masters" boxed-set, and later coupled with "Lumpy Gravy" on this 1986 CD--is *the* example of why certain artists clearly don't have the best judgement when it comes to their old masterworks. "We're Only In It For the Money" is one of the greatest records of all time, but in this form it is a masterpiece diluted. Yes, the bass and drums are re-recorded; yes, the entire thing is remixed; yes, parts on the original that were "censored" (although more often than not by Zappa's own hand) are restored. Yet what's far more important is how slipshod the entire effort is.

    A bit of history. In the early 1980s, Frank finally seized control of much of his back catalogue, acquiring for the first time many of the masters used to make his earliest albums. Two things occured simultaneously: Frank discovered that many of the older Verve masters were not in optimal condition, suffering from years of neglect in MGM's storage facility; and Frank, enthralled with the promise of 80s technology in general and digital technology in particular, came to the conclusion that the 60s-era fidelity of these recordings was simply unsuited to the new digital climate. Most of the resulting "Old Masters" LPs were simply "digitally tweezed," but Frank used the "damaged tapes" stories as a pretense to remix "Money," "Lumpy Gravy," and "Cruisin' with Ruben and the Jets." This may not have been controversial in and of itself (Zappa would produce a perfectly suitable remix of "Freak Out!" in 1987), but Frank *also* decided to re-record the drum and bass tracks on much of Money, Ruben, and Lumpy Gravy (although the remix of "Gravy" was never released in its entirety). Later, Frank would admit that this particular decision was motivated less by practical concerns and more by a dislike for the sound quailty and performance of the original tracks.

    Whatever the case, the result was disastrous. A previous reviewer points out that the new bass tracks, played by the otherwise-excellent Arthur Barrow, don't sound anything like a 1960s bass track, which is completely true. I find the new drums by Chad Wackerman to be more problematic, however. The drum sound is directly from the Them or Us/Thing Fish era (in other words, digital, likely direct-inject) and sounds terribly freeze-dried. Worse, Chad's tendency to "play along" with melody lines totally changes the beat of many of the tracks. Zappa's total disregard for the heart and soul of his most celebrated album adds insult to injury, as while the re-record of "Ruben" is at least competently assembled, "Money" is marred by off-key instruments (dig the bass during "Harry, You're a Beast"), poor digital edits complete with "clicks" attempting to replicate the originals, faders accidentally left up, and the bizarre decision to speed up several tracks ("Concentration Moon," "Let's Make the Water Turn Black"...perhaps done to alter the drum sound?) to levels of chipmunkdom that far surpass the original's helium-voiced tendencies. It sounds like the sort of rough mix that should have never escaped someone with such a reputation for perfectionism.

    And yet, for some reason, this version of the album was the only one in print for nearly ten years. The 1995 issue of the album isn't a sonic wonder, but it at least captures the spirit that makes the album what it is. I didn't think the 1980s re-record could possibly be as bad as I read, and if you don't know what the original's supposed to sound like you may very well find it to be perfectly enjoyable.

    Anyway, enough about "Money." The draw of this twofer is the pairing with "Lumpy Gravy," "Money's" sister album and the first Zappa solo disc. I really like the thing, but I know some people who've never warmed to its bizarre mixture of spoken word inanity, orchestral pieces, and...well, whatever Frank had lying around. While the sound quality of "Gravy" on this disc isn't too hot (it, like all of Zappa's 1986 discs, is mastered at an absurdly low volume), it's the only place on CD to find the original mix of the album. The 1995 re-release beats the sound quality of this one by a long-shot, but incorporates some raw mix segments that occasionally vary from the original in mix content and edits between sections. Essential for completists, in other words.

    Verdict: I picked up the twofer of "Money/Gravy" out of morbid curiosity; I had read about the horrors of the remix, but figured it couldn't possibly be that bad. In my opinion, it *is* that bad, but you very well may disagree. That said, the current stock discs are simply a better idea; unless you're a completist who absolutely needs the remix and the totally-original version of "Gravy," you're better off avoiding this release.

    3 out of 5 stars The Crazy Re-done versions.......2003-05-29

    Okay, so the story is, the Ryko 2-fer of these albums is rather odd. Lumpy Gravy is fine-sounding, but is only two tracks, making finding your favorite section rather difficult. The newer, single-disc version is the better choice.

    But We're Only In It For The Money is really odd. Zappa chose to re-record the drums and bass for the entire album, and then remix it. The plus side is that the sound is rather clean, and all the previously censored bits are all back in force.

    The negative is that, while the drums aren't too bad, the bass is ridiculous. It sounds NOTHING like a 1967 bass should, either tonally or melodically. ANd it just clashes with everything else. The drums have their own problems, sometimes sounding too 80's like, and sometimes just not mathing the rhythms of the music.

    Luckily, the original version has been re-issued as a single disc from Ryko. This 2-fer version is interesting, but not really how most fans originally heard this album.
    We're Only in It for the Money/Lumpy Gravy
    Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
    • 4 stars for leaving ''lumpy gravy'' alone
    • Frank's worst blunder: poorly re-recorded masterpiece
    We're Only in It for the Money/Lumpy Gravy
    Frank Zappa
    Manufacturer: Rykodisc
    ProductGroup: Music
    Binding: Audio CD

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    ASIN: B00008FPZ6
    Release Date: 1991-07-01

    Tracks:

    1. Are You Hung Up?
    2. Who Needs the Peace Corps?
    3. Concentration Moon
    4. Mom and Dad
    5. Telephone Conversation
    6. Bow Tie Daddy
    7. Harry, You're a Beast
    8. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body?
    9. Absolutely Free
    10. Flower Punk
    11. Hot Poop
    12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
    13. Let's Make the Water Turn Black
    14. Idiot Bastard Son
    15. Lonely Little Girl
    16. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
    17. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body (Reprise)
    18. Mother People
    19. Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny
    20. Lumpy Gravy I
    21. Lumpy Gravy II

    Customer Reviews:

    4 out of 5 stars 4 stars for leaving ''lumpy gravy'' alone.......2006-08-27

    remixing ''we're only in it for the money'' is the worst thing that zappa ever did. good thing they reissued the original album, and it's good that it has the original sgt. pepper cover, and it's good that they left ''lumpy gravy'' alone, but for some reason lumpy gravy has a really low volume, even if you play it really high on any stereo, i've heard the reissued version, it sounds louder and cleaner,
    but ''money'' sounds really pixelated and 80's
    with the new drums (drum machines?), bass, and the extra
    acoustic guitar. geez. 1 star to the remix.
    (it's good to here the unedited material)
    4 stars to lumpy gravy for leaving it somewhat alone.

    2 out of 5 stars Frank's worst blunder: poorly re-recorded masterpiece.......2005-07-14

    Frank Zappa isn't exactly known for treating his back catalogue very well, with remixes, poor remasterings, and other "tamperment" dotting his reissue programme. The infamous 1984 remix of We're Only In It For the Money--originally released as part of the "Old Masters" boxed-set, and later coupled with "Lumpy Gravy" on this 1986 CD--is *the* example of why certain artists clearly don't have the best judgement when it comes to their old masterworks. "We're Only In It For the Money" is one of the greatest records of all time, but in this form it is a masterpiece diluted. Yes, the bass and drums are re-recorded; yes, the entire thing is remixed; yes, parts on the original that were "censored" (although more often than not by Zappa's own hand) are restored. Yet what's far more important is how slipshod the entire effort is.

    A bit of history. In the early 1980s, Frank finally seized control of much of his back catalogue, acquiring for the first time many of the masters used to make his earliest albums. Two things occured simultaneously: Frank discovered that many of the older Verve masters were not in optimal condition, suffering from years of neglect in MGM's storage facility; and Frank, enthralled with the promise of 80s technology in general and digital technology in particular, came to the conclusion that the 60s-era fidelity of these recordings was simply unsuited to the new digital climate. Most of the resulting "Old Masters" LPs were simply "digitally tweezed," but Frank used the "damaged tapes" stories as a pretense to remix "Money," "Lumpy Gravy," and "Cruisin' with Ruben and the Jets." This may not have been controversial in and of itself (Zappa would produce a perfectly suitable remix of "Freak Out!" in 1987), but Frank *also* decided to re-record the drum and bass tracks on much of Money, Ruben, and Lumpy Gravy (although the remix of "Gravy" was never released in its entirety). Later, Frank would admit that this particular decision was motivated less by practical concerns and more by a dislike for the sound quailty and performance of the original tracks.

    Whatever the case, the result was disastrous. A previous reviewer points out that the new bass tracks, played by the otherwise-excellent Arthur Barrow, don't sound anything like a 1960s bass track, which is completely true. I find the new drums by Chad Wackerman to be more problematic, however. The drum sound is directly from the Them or Us/Thing Fish era (in other words, digital, likely direct-inject) and sounds terribly freeze-dried. Worse, Chad's tendency to "play along" with melody lines totally changes the beat of many of the tracks. Zappa's total disregard for the heart and soul of his most celebrated album adds insult to injury, as while the re-record of "Ruben" is at least competently assembled, "Money" is marred by off-key instruments (dig the bass during "Harry, You're a Beast"), poor digital edits complete with "clicks" attempting to replicate the originals, faders accidentally left up, and the bizarre decision to speed up several tracks ("Concentration Moon," "Let's Make the Water Turn Black"...perhaps done to alter the drum sound?) to levels of chipmunkdom that far surpass the original's helium-voiced tendencies. It sounds like the sort of rough mix that should have never escaped someone with such a reputation for perfectionism.

    And yet, for some reason, this version of the album was the only one in print for nearly ten years. The 1995 issue of the album isn't a sonic wonder, but it at least captures the spirit that makes the album what it is. I didn't think the 1980s re-record could possibly be as bad as I read, and if you don't know what the original's supposed to sound like you may very well find it to be perfectly enjoyable.

    Anyway, enough about "Money." The draw of this twofer is the pairing with "Lumpy Gravy," "Money's" sister album and the first Zappa solo disc. I really like the thing, but I know some people who've never warmed to its bizarre mixture of spoken word inanity, orchestral pieces, and...well, whatever Frank had lying around. While the sound quality of "Gravy" on this disc isn't too hot (it, like all of Zappa's 1986 discs, is mastered at an absurdly low volume), it's the only place on CD to find the original mix of the album. The 1995 re-release beats the sound quality of this one by a long-shot, but incorporates some raw mix segments that occasionally vary from the original in mix content and edits between sections. Essential for completists, in other words.

    Verdict: I picked up the twofer of "Money/Gravy" out of morbid curiosity; I had read about the horrors of the remix, but figured it couldn't possibly be that bad. In my opinion, it *is* that bad, but you very well may disagree. That said, the current stock discs are simply a better idea; unless you're a completist who absolutely needs the remix and the totally-original version of "Gravy," you're better off avoiding this release.
    We're Only in It for the Money
    Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    • WARNING: Same mix as RYKO 1993 FZ approved masters!
    • Two Versions of We're Only in It for the Money!!
    We're Only in It for the Money
    The Mothers of Invention
    Manufacturer: Zappa Records
    ProductGroup: Music
    Binding: Audio CD

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    ASIN: B00005MIIX
    Release Date: 2005-07-19

    Tracks:

    1. Are You Hung Up?
    2. Who Needs The Peace Corps?
    3. Concentration Moon
    4. Mom & Dad
    5. Telephone Conversation
    6. Bow Tie Daddy
    7. Harry, You're A Beast
    8. What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body
    9. Absolutely Free
    10. Flower Punk
    11. Hot Poop
    12. Nasal Retentive Calliope Music
    13. Let's Make The Water Turn Black
    14. The Idiot Bastard Son
    15. Lonely Little Girl
    16. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
    17. What The Ugliest Part Of Your Body? (Reprise)
    18. Mother People
    19. The Chrome Plated Magaphone Of Destiny

    Album Description

    Japanese limited edition reissue of 1968 album, packaged in a miniature gatefold LP sleeve.

    Album Details

    Japanese Version featuring a Limited LP Style Slipcase Cover. Strictly Limited to 2000 Copies!

    Customer Reviews:

    5 out of 5 stars WARNING: Same mix as RYKO 1993 FZ approved masters!.......2004-03-12

    Don't be fooled by the post before me, this is in fact the same mix that is available in the States. Bill Whitely must be referring to the original '87 cd release of WOIIFTM. So don't pay some exorbitant amount expecting you're going to get an exciting completely different version of the album...like I did.

    5 out of 5 stars Two Versions of We're Only in It for the Money!!.......2003-09-26

    I didn't realize that there were two different versions of this classic recording. I bought the "Limited LP edition" mostly out of curiosity, but am very glad that I did. I have the other edition. This is more than just a re-packaging job. It is a totally different recording!! The recordings on this disc are totally different takes! Different electronics, different sound collages, sometimes different keys. All of the original LP packaging is here too. Collectors! This is for you!

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