Saint-Saëns: Organ Symphony; Poulenc: Organ Concerto

On this CD:

1. Symphony No. 3 ("Organ"), in C minor, Op. 78
Composed by Camille Saint-Saens
Performed by Berlin Symphony Orchestra with Joachim Dalitz
Conducted by Claus Peter Flor

2. Concerto for organ, strings & timpani in G minor, FP 93
Composed by Francis Poulenc
Performed by Berlin Symphony Orchestra with Joachim Dalitz
Conducted by Claus Peter Flor

Saint-Saëns: Organ Symphony; Poulenc: Organ Concerto, Music, Francis Poulenc, Camille Saint-Saens, Claus Peter Flor, Berliner Sinfonie-Orchester, Joachim Dalitz, Classical, Classical Composers, Concerto, Organ Concerto, Romantic Symphony, Symphonic
Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3; Poulenc: Organ Concerto; Barber: Toccata Festiva
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • A Missed Opportunity?
  • A Sound Spectacular
  • The Organ at Verizon Hall
  • Great Concert; Great Recording--Wish the Levinson Piece was Here
  • Superb Barber--variable Poulenc and Saint-Saens
 Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3; Poulenc: Organ Concerto; Barber: Toccata Festiva

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ASIN: B000LP4OII
Release Date: 2007-02-13

Tracks:

  1. Toccata Festiva,Op.36 For Organ And Orchestra
  2. Andante
  3. Allegro Giocoso
  4. Subito Andante Moderato
  5. Tempo Allegro, Molto Agitato
  6. Tres Calme. Lent
  7. Tempo De L'Allegro Initial
  8. Tempo Introduction. Largo
  9. I. Adagio Allegro Moderato
  10. Poco Adagio
  11. II. Allegro MOderato Presto Allegro Moderato
  12. Maestoso-Allegro-Molto Allegro Pesante

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This disc is drawn from the concerts inaugurating the new organ in Philadelphia's concert hall, a fine instrument well-captured by the engineers. But along with the sense of occasion, organist Olivier Latry and the orchestra deliver stunning playing of a stimulating program. Barber's celebratory overture is an apt opener, full of color and sparkle. The Poulenc is especially notable for the intensity soloist and the orchestra bring to one of the finest modern concertos in the repertory. Saint-Saëns' Symphony is almost on the same level, slightly marred by a sluggish slow movement but with plenty of excitement elsewhere. Perhaps the most impressive aspect of this disc is the playing of the orchestra, full of life and vitality. The sheer sound of the Philadelphia strings is captivating enough, but the fetching wind solo turns and section work remind us of the continuing greatness of this ensemble. Latry too, is outstanding in the Barber and Poulenc works and an incisive presence in the Saint-Saëns. -- Dan Davis

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars A Missed Opportunity?.......2007-06-20

For a long time I have admired Christoff Eschenbach as a pianist and accompanist; my Eschenbach/Fischer-Dieskau/Schumann is delightful. This is my first exposure to him as a conductor - sadly, I am disappointed.

The Barber and Poulenc I quite liked although, to me, they were of secondary importance as I bought the CD for the Saint-Saëns/Dobson/Latry/Philadelphia partnership; one that works very well on this disc - a superior recording responsible for most of the four stars awarded. The factor out of balance in this equation is Eschenbach.

Solti could be irritatingly slow but he was, by comparison with Eschenbach in this performance, positively Toscanini-esque. All four sections of the Organ Symphony were taken at much too slow a pace but the "poco adagio" was thoroughly somnambulant and the "maestoso" section anything but. That the Philadelphia Orchestra was able to maintain the excellent cohesion displayed at this less-than-pedestrian pace is a measure of their quality.

If it is the Saint-Saëns that you want, you could do much better elsewhere. This work requires a powerful organ with convincing plein jeu (preferably but not necessarily in the French symphonic tradition) but so many recordings have either employed asthmatic instruments or, as to a degree obtains in this case, contrived a solo/orchestra imbalance. This balance is unusually difficult to achieve but, in my view, was nicely accomplished by Jane Parker-Smith and the London Philharmonic in 1982/83. The two dates arise from the orchestral and solo parts being separately recorded at different times and at different venues. Perhaps this is a "cheat" but it resulted in what I consider the best recording of this work and the one I would recommend.

5 out of 5 stars A Sound Spectacular.......2007-05-15

This is a must have recording! It's just fantastic. The organ and symphonic playing are mesmerising.

5 out of 5 stars The Organ at Verizon Hall.......2007-05-09

Quite a debut! Three great works for organ and orchestra on one SACD. My landmark for the Saint-Saens is a live perfomance at Symphony Hall in Boston with E. Power Biggs and Charles Munch when the organ was in its prime. This would be "The" performance for me. Biggs released the same organ with the Poulenc and the Barber on an Allen. When the pedal point comes in on the Biggs-Burgin, it still sets the floor vibrating. Biggs and Munch were not able to 'release' because of contracts [Biggs to Columbia and Munch to RCA] but hopefully that can be found in the BSO Transcription Trust and released now. In the meantime, this recording is very, verrrrry satisfying. The Dobson Organ is a treasure to Philadelphia. My only reservation is: Does Eschenbach really, REALLY grasp the Philadelphia strings in these three pieces!

4 out of 5 stars Great Concert; Great Recording--Wish the Levinson Piece was Here.......2007-04-25

I attended many of the events of the Premiere Organ Festival, including one of the concerts from which this recording originated. I join many of the other reviewers who wish the Gerald Levinson commission was here instead of the Poulenc concerto. I had always found the Poulenc work curiously lifeless and mechanical in the past. However, a later performance by the Pittsburgh Symphony with Michael Stairs (I think) was a revelation.

Both the Barber and the Saint-Saens show the new organ to be a masterful partner with the Philadelphia Orchestra. As a subscriber, I'm looking forward to many grand events in the forseeable future!

The Organ Symphony in particular was well-balanced in peformance and recording. I have at least one recording of this work where the pianos are missing. Here they are right where they supposed to be.

As many of you may know, the Cooper Memorial Organ is provided with two mutually exclusive consoles and playing actions. One is a moveable electronic action console and the other a mechanical tracker action key desk. Both are used here. The Barber, the Poulenc and the missing Levinson were played on the floor on a beautiful curvilinear console which emphasizes horizontal lines and appears to be as large as an aircraft carrier. The Saint-Saens was played from the mechnical key desk above [there is a television monitor instead of the traditional mirror}. One can see both in the candid photo of the concert on page 20 of the CD's booklet.

Oddly enough, the booklet DOES NOT have a listing of the organ's specifications. I guess you will have to wait for a recital disc which I hope is forth-coming!

4 out of 5 stars Superb Barber--variable Poulenc and Saint-Saens.......2007-04-25

This disc features at terrific account of the Barber--by far the best performance and recorded sound I've yet heard. Five stars all around! Eschenbach does a superb job of making this under-rated work make sense to me. Marin Alsop does a fine job on her Naxos Barber disc, but you must hear this Phialdelphia performance if you want to dig deeper.

The Poulenc, unfortunately, is less than noteworthy. I am the last person to know the finer points of Poulenc, but it just seems this performance cannot make up its mind where it wants to go. There are some shifts in tempo that fail to sound convincing, for instance. At this point in listening to the disc, I also came to feel the recorded balance was not as good as in the Barber.

I feel better qualified to say something about the Saint Seans, since I own over a dozen recorded performances of this work on CD--from the classic Munch/BSO forward in time. I feel that Eschenbach would certainly have benefited from a bit more of the energy that Munch brought to that reading in spades, but, of course, there can be little doubt that Eschenbach enjoys far superior sonics.

They are not the best sonics I believe this work has received on CD, however. My impression, at least from this recording, is that the Verizon Hall has less liveliness than other venues. Perhaps this is a trade-off that comes with making a live recording in a packed hall--more bodies mean less liveliness in the hall than otherwise. I am not sure. All I know is that I was dissapointed to hear the orchestra sound backwardly placed and have little "air" around it, and to hear the organ--while certainly massive and arresting in sound--seem less than convincingly placed in relation to the orchestra. As for the performance, I feel there are also better combinations of grandeur and warmth to be found on CD, for example the Levine, Maazel, Dutoit and Barenboim accounts. All of these readings feature different couplings, so you have some additional factors to consider in a purchase.

My personal favorite--among my dozen or so--remains one I bought as an afterthought in a Glasgow, Scotland record shop last summer: an EMI CD by Andrew Litton and the Royal Liverpool Orchestra recorded in Liverpool Cathderal back in 1987. From the first note to the last, it holds all the elements of this French masterpiece in balance, and the recorded soundstage is entirely believable--in fact, it is wonderfully open and airy (as one would expect, given the venue). And what an organ! It is a joy to hear and is also recorded in real time with the orchestra. Of course, there is more reverberation than some might think ideal in this recoding, but I am willing to look past it as the performace is so compelling. Sadly, this disc is now out-of-print. My fond hope is that it will make a return soon. Until then, I'd recommend all lovers of this work to seek it out: You will be richly rewarded if you can find it!

In summary, a first-rate Barber that is real treasure and almost reason enough to purchase this disc. You will find better versions of the other coupling elsewhere. Very fine--if not exactly ideal--sound all around.



Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3 'Organ'; Poulenc: Organ Concerto
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  • THE Performance of this Symphony
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ASIN: B00005MO9U
Release Date: 2002-09-17

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars THE Performance of this Symphony.......2007-05-20

The original recording was made in 1966. Of course it lacks the super-hi fidelity of todays DDD recordings, however, the performance of Marie Clair Alain and that of conductor Jean Martinon by far overshadows the shortcomings of fidelity. I have three other performances of this work and have heard actually dozens more and this disc tops them all. It was like hearing the great Symphony for the first time.

5 out of 5 stars The Glory That Was France.......2006-04-03

This CD is especially appreciated as a reminder of the prominent position France once held in the musical and artistic world as well as the international arena. I mean, how much more French could you get - Camille Saint-Saens, Francis Poulenc and Marie-Claire Alain - three musical giants.

This is really a wonderful album, deeply felt, the Gallic flavor quite intense. It is NOT just an organ CD: "Le Rouet D'Omphale" and "Danse Macabre" are included as well as the two signature works - the Third Symphony by Saint-Saens and the Concerto for Organ in G Minor by Poulenc. In an ironic turn, the (in my opinion) inferior Saint-Saens has triumphed in the public mind over the far superior Poulenc. When one considers the treatment of the organ and orchestra, there is no contest. Also, the work by Poulenc had a striking originality - from the gargantuan theme to the "merry go round" finale (what a stroke of genius).

Although the Third Symphony pales slightly by comparison, Alain gives her 110% as she does on all her recordings. She has stated in the past that she has no national preference but undeniably she arises to the occasion when performing Widor, Vierne, Franck or any works by her own famous relatives. This CD is an easy five star. PLEASE - if you want to hear the organ in all its glory (it's the famous Saint Sulpice), purchase GREAT TOCCATAS with Ms. Alain - a stunning work of incredible virtuosity.

5 out of 5 stars Outstanding in every way.......2005-05-07

Jean Martinon was a superior conductor, especially in his native French repertoire. This CD has excellent sound, great orchestral playing and highly musical interpretations. Everything sounds just right. If you buy this CD, program it to end with the symphony. It will give you 71 minutes of pure, musical pleasure.
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