Waiting for Herb [Import]

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Album Description
Japanese pressing. Remastered and expanded version of their 1993 album includes three bonus tracks, 'First Day Of Forever', 'Train Kept Rolling On', & 'Paris St. Germaine'. Packaged in a standard jewel case. Includes an OBI and Japanese and English insert. Warner. 2004.

Waiting for Herb
Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
  • Not "for fans only" ....
  • No Shane Just Shame
  • Pogues Go Pop
  • What's that?
  • Pogues carry on without Shane.
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ASIN: B000001A3T
Release Date: 1993-10-19

Tracks:

  1. Tuesday Morning
  2. Smell Of Petroleum
  3. Haunting
  4. Once Upon A Time
  5. Sitting On Top Of The World
  6. Drunken Boat
  7. Big City
  8. Girl From The Wadi Hammamat
  9. Modern World
  10. Pachinko
  11. My Baby's Gone
  12. Small Hours

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Not "for fans only" ...........2007-06-01

Closer to "for non-fans only"...

The opinions of this album tend to fall into one of two camps:

1) Die-hard Pogues fans who are fairly offended by the band having booted out Shane MacGowan, keeping the band name in the absence of its most recognizable figure, and furthermore disgracing the band's name by by releasing an album that was more accessible and pop-oriented than prior Pogues albums.

2) People enjoy the music, which they find catchy and diverse.

I place myself firmly in the latter group. I gotta wonder if this album would have gone over so badly with many Pogues fans had it been released under a different band name, such as "Spider and the Somethingorothers".

"Real" Pogues or not, this album just has some wonderful songs, in a variety of different musical styles (almost every song stylistically different from each other), from infectious folk-pop ("Sitting On Top of the World") to a bouncy, Eastern-European sound that prefigured Gogol Bordello ("Drunken Boat"), some pleasant ballads, their almost obligatory middle-eastern influenced tune (the superb "Girl from the Wadi Hammamat"), even Americana ("My Baby's Gone," which has energy galore, and probably the worst American accent I've ever heard on a recording).

So, while I could understand why some fans might take offense to this being released as a Pogues album, the music stands up quite well on its own merits. Pop in this disc and enjoy Spider and the Somethingorothers!

1 out of 5 stars No Shane Just Shame.......2006-04-02

Without a leading talent it fails to reach the dizzy heights of mrdiocrity - IT IS NOT THE POGUES !!! lacking in their vitality and spontaneity. It fails any link to the real roots of their original works. It can only be described as, and should have been entitled, "Pogue Mockery". One star rating is generosity in excess.

1 out of 5 stars Pogues Go Pop.......2005-12-29

From a "group" that reached stratospheric heights of songwriting in the past, this album is absolute garbage-- revealing the said group to be no more than "Shane and the Gang." Having lost (fired) Shane MacGowan, the Pogues lost their edge, both musically and lyrically. Abandoning Shane's preference for weaving traditional and contemporary music into a seamless garment, the unShaned Pogues dive headlong into pop music played with traditional instruments. The results are bland and unmemorable at best-- and nauseating at worst.

5 out of 5 stars What's that?.......2005-09-16

I'm at work, so I'll make this short.

Everyone seems to be holding this to standards that it definately cannot stand up to. This is not the MacGowan Pogues that we all know and love. And yes, this release is a bit pop. With all that aside, there really are some damn good songs on this album. In fact, I would go as far to say that "Drunken Boat" is one of my all time favorite songs from any band. And I could only hope that there were some Pop artists out there today that could put something like this together. And I've actually shared this album with many friends who have never heard anything from the Pogues, and most of them are now diehard Pogues fans.

In my opinion (judging by many of the Shane MacGowan and the Popes and various other post-Pogues MacGowan releases that I have) the Pogues would not have sounded much like the Red Roses For Me-Pogues on this album had they kept Shane, anyway.

4 out of 5 stars Pogues carry on without Shane........2005-06-21

Waiting for Herb (1993) was The Pogues first album without their drunken leader Shane MacGowan. Troubles with his rampant alcohol problem caused a deep rift within the band and it spread thorugh the members like wild fire. Several of them developed problems of their own and quickly moved to oust Shane from the band. Well the remaining Pogues staggered into the studio to record Waiting for Herb.

Spider replaces Shane and auxilary Pogue Joe Strummer on lead vocals. His song Tuesday Morning became a minor hit for the band. Finer and Woods picked up the bulk of the song writing duties. The tracks that appeared on the album are pretty good, but they lack the fire that drove the
previous albums. The other tracks are good (Smell of Petroleum, Once Upon a Time, The Haunting, Big City, Modern World). I have no idea why people have slagged this disc. The follow up I can understand.

Shane rejoined the band in late 1995. This was too much for Phillip Chevron, James Fernaly and Terry Woods. They quit the band and never returned. After the tour was over Shane quit the band (this time for good). The band was down to four (Spider Stacy, Andrew Ranken, Jem Finer and Darryl Hunt) and they picked up four new members and continued the Pogues.

The CD comes with a nice booklet with photos of the band members and a lyrics for the album's tracks.

Recommended for Pogues fans.
Waiting for Herb
Average customer rating: 2.5 out of 5 stars
  • wrong cd
  • The worst of the best.
  • The Pogues most disappointing album. What Happened?
 Waiting for Herb
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Manufacturer: Wea International
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B0006957T4
Release Date: 2004-12-17

Album Description

Remastered & expanded reissue of 1995 album includes two bonus tracks, 'Eyes Of An Angel' & 'Love You Till The End'. WSM. 2004.

Album Details

Digitally Remastered Reissue of the Famed Irish Band's Classic Album from 1996 was their Seventh and Final Effort. This Reissue Includes Two Bonus Tracks Not Included on the Original Issue.

Customer Reviews:

3 out of 5 stars wrong cd.......2005-05-29

Your listing the tracks for "Hells Ditch", not "Waiting for Herb". Yopu won't sell to many that way. Want to know bonus tracks for cd listed as "Waiting for Herb"

2 out of 5 stars The worst of the best........2005-02-20

If I had never heard the Pogues prior to this release, this might rate a 3 or a 4, but the songs lack the power and unique vision of the '84-'90 releases. These songs are enjoyable, expertly performed, and melodic. You won't be disappointed...that is unless you've heard the Pogues' previous work.

3 out of 5 stars The Pogues most disappointing album. What Happened?.......2005-02-17

Let me start by saying the Pogues without Shane MacGowan, is like the Sex Pistols without Johnny Rotten. The first post-Shane release after his departure from the band in 1991 is disappointing to say the least. The Pogues would never be the same band again after MacGowan left. Here Spider Stacy takes over the lead vocals and does a noble job. However, the songs seriously lack the fire of the old Pogues albums; they sound more like the Clash meets the Chieftains. Jem Finer has become the principal songwriter, and does a fairly good job, however most of his songs lack the energy of his earlier works and are easily forgettable. Spider Stacy provides the best cut on the album "Tuesday Morning," and I'm actually rather fond of the James Fearnley penned "Drunken Boat." However, all the other songs on this release serious lack the fire and energy of the earlier Pogues releases, and some of them I find myself just skipping over. Overall, "Waiting For Herb," is only for die-hard Pogues fans, and please don't let this release be your introduction to a great band.
The new remastered version contains the Philip Chevron penned "First Day of Forever." Andrew Ranken provides the song "Train Kept Rolling On," which should have been on the original album, as should have the Spider Stacy/Terry Woods number "Paris St. Germaine."
Waiting for Herb
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    		Waiting for Herb

    Manufacturer: Chameleon
    ProductGroup: Music
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    ASIN: B00000DTJN
    Waiting for Herb
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      		Waiting for Herb
      The Pogues
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      Binding: Audio CD

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      ASIN: B0009EP00M
      Release Date: 2005-05-31

      Tracks:

      1. Sunnyside of the Street
      2. Sayonara
      3. Ghost of a Smile
      4. Hell's Ditch
      5. Lorca's Novena
      6. Summer in Siam
      7. Rain Street
      8. Rainbow Man
      9. Wake of the Mudusa
      10. House of the Gods
      11. Green Queens & Jean
      12. Maidrin Rua
      13. Six to Go
      14. Whiskey in the Jar
      15. Bastard Landlord
      16. Infinity
      17. Curse of Love
      18. Squid Out of Water
      19. Jack's Heroes
      20. Rainy Night in Soho

      Album Description

      Japanese pressing. Remastered and expanded version of their 1993 album includes three bonus tracks, 'First Day Of Forever', 'Train Kept Rolling On', & 'Paris St. Germaine'. Packaged in a standard jewel case. Includes an OBI and Japanese and English insert. Warner. 2004.
      Waiting for Herb
      Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
      • Not "for fans only" ....
      • No Shane Just Shame
      • Pogues Go Pop
      • What's that?
      • Pogues carry on without Shane.
      		 Waiting for Herb
      Pogues
      Manufacturer: Musicrama/Koch
      ProductGroup: Music
      Binding: Audio CD

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      1. Pogue Mahone
      2. Peace and Love
      3. Hell's Ditch
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      5. Rum Sodomy & the Lash

      ASIN: B000003PX3
      Release Date: 1997-09-08

      Customer Reviews:

      5 out of 5 stars Not "for fans only" ...........2007-06-01

      Closer to "for non-fans only"...

      The opinions of this album tend to fall into one of two camps:

      1) Die-hard Pogues fans who are fairly offended by the band having booted out Shane MacGowan, keeping the band name in the absence of its most recognizable figure, and furthermore disgracing the band's name by by releasing an album that was more accessible and pop-oriented than prior Pogues albums.

      2) People enjoy the music, which they find catchy and diverse.

      I place myself firmly in the latter group. I gotta wonder if this album would have gone over so badly with many Pogues fans had it been released under a different band name, such as "Spider and the Somethingorothers".

      "Real" Pogues or not, this album just has some wonderful songs, in a variety of different musical styles (almost every song stylistically different from each other), from infectious folk-pop ("Sitting On Top of the World") to a bouncy, Eastern-European sound that prefigured Gogol Bordello ("Drunken Boat"), some pleasant ballads, their almost obligatory middle-eastern influenced tune (the superb "Girl from the Wadi Hammamat"), even Americana ("My Baby's Gone," which has energy galore, and probably the worst American accent I've ever heard on a recording).

      So, while I could understand why some fans might take offense to this being released as a Pogues album, the music stands up quite well on its own merits. Pop in this disc and enjoy Spider and the Somethingorothers!

      1 out of 5 stars No Shane Just Shame.......2006-04-02

      Without a leading talent it fails to reach the dizzy heights of mrdiocrity - IT IS NOT THE POGUES !!! lacking in their vitality and spontaneity. It fails any link to the real roots of their original works. It can only be described as, and should have been entitled, "Pogue Mockery". One star rating is generosity in excess.

      1 out of 5 stars Pogues Go Pop.......2005-12-29

      From a "group" that reached stratospheric heights of songwriting in the past, this album is absolute garbage-- revealing the said group to be no more than "Shane and the Gang." Having lost (fired) Shane MacGowan, the Pogues lost their edge, both musically and lyrically. Abandoning Shane's preference for weaving traditional and contemporary music into a seamless garment, the unShaned Pogues dive headlong into pop music played with traditional instruments. The results are bland and unmemorable at best-- and nauseating at worst.

      5 out of 5 stars What's that?.......2005-09-16

      I'm at work, so I'll make this short.

      Everyone seems to be holding this to standards that it definately cannot stand up to. This is not the MacGowan Pogues that we all know and love. And yes, this release is a bit pop. With all that aside, there really are some damn good songs on this album. In fact, I would go as far to say that "Drunken Boat" is one of my all time favorite songs from any band. And I could only hope that there were some Pop artists out there today that could put something like this together. And I've actually shared this album with many friends who have never heard anything from the Pogues, and most of them are now diehard Pogues fans.

      In my opinion (judging by many of the Shane MacGowan and the Popes and various other post-Pogues MacGowan releases that I have) the Pogues would not have sounded much like the Red Roses For Me-Pogues on this album had they kept Shane, anyway.

      4 out of 5 stars Pogues carry on without Shane........2005-06-21

      Waiting for Herb (1993) was The Pogues first album without their drunken leader Shane MacGowan. Troubles with his rampant alcohol problem caused a deep rift within the band and it spread thorugh the members like wild fire. Several of them developed problems of their own and quickly moved to oust Shane from the band. Well the remaining Pogues staggered into the studio to record Waiting for Herb.

      Spider replaces Shane and auxilary Pogue Joe Strummer on lead vocals. His song Tuesday Morning became a minor hit for the band. Finer and Woods picked up the bulk of the song writing duties. The tracks that appeared on the album are pretty good, but they lack the fire that drove the
      previous albums. The other tracks are good (Smell of Petroleum, Once Upon a Time, The Haunting, Big City, Modern World). I have no idea why people have slagged this disc. The follow up I can understand.

      Shane rejoined the band in late 1995. This was too much for Phillip Chevron, James Fernaly and Terry Woods. They quit the band and never returned. After the tour was over Shane quit the band (this time for good). The band was down to four (Spider Stacy, Andrew Ranken, Jem Finer and Darryl Hunt) and they picked up four new members and continued the Pogues.

      The CD comes with a nice booklet with photos of the band members and a lyrics for the album's tracks.

      Recommended for Pogues fans.

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